[mIsS_hAyLeY_jAnE]

me ^_^

[Tomi]

ME!! :lol:

[Fox]

yes i think we all do!!! it will be very great to see Heather's last scenes. I contacted David (dfurtney) and he said we should try contacting MGM about it, that is what i am going to do!!!

[Jessica]

Yeah, I wanna see it too :D

[tlm1975]

Hello, again. I was born in 1975 (in case you can't tell by my name!) and couldn't WAIT to see P3 back in 1988 because i was such a big fan of Heather and P2. The first time i FINALLY saw the preview on tv one night (it was a DIFFERENT one than is on the dvd release of P2 and P3, and very short) i was so disappointed because Heather basically wasn't shown in it at all except for one very quick shot of the back of her standing in her red pj's. Only years later as an adult did i read about how MGM was unsure of how to market P3 after Heather's death because they didn't want to "use" her tragedy to market the film. (Although ironically she was very proud of this film AND of being the "poltergeist girl" so i'm sure she wouldn't have minded!) Anyhow, i still think that MGM may have said to Gary that the ending was in poor taste, and there was no way of keeping most of the footage because "frozen carol anne" could probably be seen in the majority of it, so the whole ending had to be scrapped. If they HAD originally planned to add some more scary stuff in February to get a PG13 rating, i don't think this "scarier" ending ever really got off the ground after Heather passed away. I think once she died they just didn't care that much about the ending OR the rating anymore, and simply made the quickest, cheapest, easiest, Heather-less ending that they could. I'm sure the original ending is much, much better.
If Heather was disappointed by P2 because she didn't think it would scare anyone, she'd probably be very disappointed by the unscary "new" ending of P3.

[Jessica]

tlm1975, on 15 July 2009 - 03:21 PM, said:

Hello, again. I was born in 1975 (in case you can't tell by my name!) and couldn't WAIT to see P3 back in 1988 because i was such a big fan of Heather and P2. The first time i FINALLY saw the preview on tv one night (it was a DIFFERENT one than is on the dvd release of P2 and P3, and very short) i was so disappointed because Heather basically wasn't shown in it at all except for one very quick shot of the back of her standing in her red pj's. Only years later as an adult did i read about how MGM was unsure of how to market P3 after Heather's death because they didn't want to "use" her tragedy to market the film. (Although ironically she was very proud of this film AND of being the "poltergeist girl" so i'm sure she wouldn't have minded!) Anyhow, i still think that MGM may have said to Gary that the ending was in poor taste, and there was no way of keeping most of the footage because "frozen carol anne" could probably be seen in the majority of it, so the whole ending had to be scrapped. If they HAD originally planned to add some more scary stuff in February to get a PG13 rating, i don't think this "scarier" ending ever really got off the ground after Heather passed away. I think once she died they just didn't care that much about the ending OR the rating anymore, and simply made the quickest, cheapest, easiest, Heather-less ending that they could. I'm sure the original ending is much, much better.
If Heather was disappointed by P2 because she didn't think it would scare anyone, she'd probably be very disappointed by the unscary "new" ending of P3.

Yes, that's a point. Evewn though there's a frozen Carol Anne, it seems the film ends well.

[Fox]

i would rather the original ending anyway that the redone ending and i am sure that the original ending is not that bad especially with Heather in it, it will be great. When seeing those photos of the original ending the ending looks so much warmer and happier :) ...

[craigsinc]

Personally I think that changing the ending may have been appropriate back in 1988 to avoid people becoming upset by seeing a frozen Carol Anne, in view of Heather's death, but as we have now become used to Heather no longer being with us, I now think it is time for an anniversary DVD with the original ending.

[Jessica]

Fox, on 15 July 2009 - 11:21 PM, said:

i would rather the original ending anyway that the redone ending and i am sure that the original ending is not that bad especially with Heather in it, it will be great. When seeing those photos of the original ending the ending looks so much warmer and happier http://heatherorourke.net/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif ...

Yes, it does. http://heatherorourke.net/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/happy.gif

craigsinc, on 16 July 2009 - 01:43 AM, said:

Personally I think that changing the ending may have been appropriate back in 1988 to avoid people becoming upset by seeing a frozen Carol Anne, in view of Heather's death, but as we have now become used to Heather no longer being with us, I now think it is time for an anniversary DVD with the original ending.

Yes. Though she's frozen, she's fine in the end. To bad it didn't end well after the film for Heather. Aww. I still wanna see the original ending.

This post has been edited by Jessica: 16 July 2009 - 09:04 AM

[LiveWire]

craigsinc, on 16 July 2009 - 01:43 AM, said:

Personally I think that changing the ending may have been appropriate back in 1988 to avoid people becoming upset by seeing a frozen Carol Anne, in view of Heather's death, but as we have now become used to Heather no longer being with us, I now think it is time for an anniversary DVD with the original ending.

I agree.


If not a full SE DVD, then they could at least upload the footage to this site (to her fans) or Youtube.

[Jessica]

LiveWire, on 16 July 2009 - 04:35 PM, said:

I agree.


If not a full SE DVD, then they could at least upload the footage to this site (to her fans) or Youtube.

I agree. Well, they'd upload on this site first, since this is the fansite. ^_^

[Fox]

i believe their will be a SE Dvd.

[Jessica]

Fox, on 17 July 2009 - 01:59 AM, said:

i believe their will be a SE Dvd.

Maybe it will come out a SE DVD then. ^_^

[Suaviterinmodo]

Fox, on 17 July 2009 - 01:59 AM, said:

i believe their will be a SE Dvd.

Yes, but only after Gary Sherman passes away.

[Jessica]

Suaviterinmodo, on 17 July 2009 - 11:32 AM, said:

Yes, but only after Gary Sherman passes away.

Well, we don't want anyone to die, but seriously, is Gary Sherman really the boss of the whole film?

[Suaviterinmodo]

Jessica, on 17 July 2009 - 12:48 PM, said:

Well, we don't want anyone to die, but seriously, is Gary Sherman really the boss of the whole film?

Yes, that's what a director is. David told me he wrote PIII during a WGA (Writers Guild of America) strike as a member. If one writes material during a strike, the WGA bans that person from writing anymore material or scripts. David says (and I agree) that that is the reason Gary says the original ending "was never shot", even though, based on all the evidence David gathered, it clearly was shot. If Gary Sherman ever admits this, he would be banned from movie writing.

It is highly unlikely he will do so, so that's why I say that I doubt a PIII SE DVD containing the original ending will be released while Gary is still around.

[jokergirl]

i want to see the orginial ending to

[dfurtney]

Suaviterinmodo, on 17 July 2009 - 01:21 PM, said:

Yes, that's what a director is. David told me he wrote PIII during a WGA (Writers Guild of America) strike as a member. If one writes material during a strike, the WGA bans that person from writing anymore material or scripts. David says (and I agree) that that is the reason Gary says the original ending "was never shot", even though, based on all the evidence David gathered, it clearly was shot. If Gary Sherman ever admits this, he would be banned from movie writing.

It is highly unlikely he will do so, so that's why I say that I doubt a PIII SE DVD containing the original ending will be released while Gary is still around.

Just to clarify and correct something Celia said: Gary Sherman and Brian Taggert did not write the script for P3 while the strike was going on; I've only said that it's possible that Gary "revised" pages for the re-shoot after the strike began.

I'm not sure what the WGA rules are regarding their members who may write scripts for studios while a strike is going on; and it's unclear who actually worked on the script pages for the re-shoot (it may have been someone else entirely, but most likely it was Gary Sherman, who changed things at the behest of the studio executives). My theory is that most of the re-shoot pages were written before the beginning of the March 7th strike, so anything that was "Revised March 14, 1988" may have in reality been pretty minor. It's unknown how much control he would have over the release of any cut footage on a SE DVD. I would think that since he wasn't a big name director, the studio would have final say. Hopefully, anyway. The fact that the original ending was filmed shouldn't have any relation to the WGA strike; the original ending was written and filmed months before the strike began. But, when you look at what Gary told the E! True Hollywood story, it seems like he was trying to claim that the "b.s. ending" (as he terms it) that he had to film without Heather was shot "in one day" shortly after Heather's funeral, in the month of February (way before the strike began). However, that is simply not true, judging from:

1. The script pages for the re-shoot on file at the Margaret Herrick Library in Beverly Hills have "Revised March 14, 1988" stamped on each page;

and

2. The calendar showing the schedule for when the re-shoot was filmed, which was provided to me by SFX make up man Doug Drexler. The calender was from March, 1988, with the re-shoot actually being filmed not "in one day," but rather over a period of at least 5 days (March 14th-18th, 1988). The last shot filmed, the scene of Kane's head "melting" on the floor of the bedroom, was filmed on the last day, Friday March 18th.

Here is what I forsee:

IF MGM decides to release a SE DVD, they will probably go to Sherman and see if he wants to be involved with it. If he says yes, he'll likely do so on the condition that any deleted scenes and the original ending not be included, or he won't participate. At that point, it will be up to the studio to decide whether to follow his wishes or go ahead with the SE without his involvement. Hopefully they could include the original ending, even if he objects. That would be fine with me; they can always get someone else to do a commentary track (me? haha).

Then again, the footage might have been thrown away years ago, so it could be a moot point.

This post has been edited by dfurtney: 17 July 2009 - 03:37 PM

[Suaviterinmodo]

I, too, worry that the original ending footage doesn't exist anymore. If MGM does release an SE, I hope Gary Sherman isn't involved. If he wasn't lying about the ending to cover himself so the WGA wouldn't find out, why do you suppose he lied, David? I mean, unless it would do major damage to his career, how painful would the truth of, "There was an original ending, but MGM hated it so we had to reshoot it" really be? He emphatically denies such a thing ever happened, but I can't think of why he insists on lying unless it would hurt him permanantly.

[Jessica]

It must exist somewhere. And he should admit it, we have proof.